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Poster: adks12020 Date: Nov 3, 2011 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

haha..indian jam dead...I liek the term but although Indian music is all about chasing eachother around it isn't really like the dead at all. I always had that impression too until I read about it a little more and heard some interviews with Ravi.

People were comparing his music to the Dead and jazz artists of the time and he denied that emphatically.

In reality almost all the music Ravi Shankar played was based on very detailed traditional scales and melodies that he had memorized (as do all traditional Indian musicians) and didn't really implement improvisation. Indian musicians literally memorize thousands of scales and melodies and all good classical Indian musicians know them so although it sounds like improve they all generally know where one tune will go once they hear the first one.

Its really crazy stuff...most of the scales have different notes on the way up than they do on the way down and often a different number of notes on the way up and the way down. Nothing like western music.

As far as Donna goes...I don't think she had a bad voice when the songs suited's just that I think she fit with the Dead's repertoire. I like her with JGB in the late 70s...and even some Dead shows in 77. Listen to a version of Sunrise from 1977 9can't remember the date of the one I'm thinking of) and if you can honestly tell me her voice is just horrible then you must have a hearing deficiency. That song is not an easy one to sing.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 3, 2011 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one?

thanks for the info, that is rehearsed? Amazing! I wonder what Dead shows Ravi heard, I could be wrong - usually - I think Ravi could have sat in with the 1978 GD. It's sad, but other than woodstock, this is my only exposure to Sitar India. On Donna, Scarlet Begonias is not complete without her voice, my mental history.This is the txt I'm printing >>

Ravi Shankar
1982 June 18
Palace Of Fine Arts
San Francisco, CA

Allah Rakha - Tabla
Ali Akbar Khan - Sarod

Disc 1
1. Raga Jhinjhoti
2. Raga Durga (10)

Disc 2
1. (remarks)
Sindhi Bhairavi:
2. Chanchar (3-4-3-4)
3. Teental (16)

Bonus Tracks: The Grateful Dead
Passaic, NJ - 1978 November 24
4. Drumz ->
5. Ollin Arrageed (With Hamza El Din)

Ravi Shankar recording notes: center of hall
3 Nak 700 mikes (L, R, Center blend) ->
custom preamp -> Sony TCD-5 -> dub from
1st Gen off master -> Audiophile 2496 sound
card -> digital cleanup (no EQ) -> FLAC.
excellent audience recording.

All the performances I've been fortunate to obtain
over the years have excellent sound-a commentary
on the respect that Ravi receives from his audience.
At 91, Ravi is still going strong and will be touring
Europe this winter. Please go see this living legend
for it is truly a magical experience.

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Poster: rastamon Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one? - GD 2/24/74 Miller

back to Donna, she's really good in the JGB, but if Monte or someone perhaps does an interview with her, please bring a 20sec recording of her vocal into to the Playin, play it then ask..."Donna, what were you thinking??". I've actually heard a few very good Donna Playin wails, maybe 79?, in tune, but far and in between. The rest of 2/24 Playing is whew good!! But she gets the last ohohowaaaaaaoooohhhhhhhhahohhhhhhhhhhhwaaaaaaaaaaaiiiieee! I love donna, forever a member of the Grateful Dead and The Jerry Garcia Band.
Well, thijgs to fret over haha.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Nov 5, 2011 6:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Keith & Donna rolled into one? - GD 2/24/74 Miller

There was interview with Donna posted here a few years back and she comments that she has troubles listening to many of her performances with the band. The article was in the Baltimore Sun in 2007, however i can't find a copy.